"Do not judge, so that you may not be judged. For with the judgment you make you will be judged, and the measure you give will be the measure you get. Why do you see the speck in your neighbor's eye, but do not notice the log in your own eye? Or how can you say to your neighbor, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye' while the log is in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your neighbor's eye." Mt 7:1-6
Umm, yeah. I think I'm done with the flame war regarding my views on conservative Catholics. You don't like the way I believe, or the way I view authority? Maybe if you ever had anything to say to me about any other topic, I would care. But it's not like you're Ann or Brent or my mother or Kate or one of my neighbors or friends or any of the folks who regularly comment here. If you're uncomfortable with what I have to say, maybe you should examine why that might be. I often examine the reasons I'm uncomfortable with things that conservative Catholics say. With things bishops say. With things the pope says. Sometimes, believe it or not, it even makes me change the way I think about this or that.
Do I have a problem with authority? Perhaps. I am congregational at heart caught in a hierarchical church. Am I leaving? No. I do not accept that authority is to be followed with blind, slave-like obedience. If you were regular readers here, you would perhaps have noted I'm a BENEDICTINE. I made a promise of obedience. Not to the level of vow, but I keep that promise. And obedience, (sigh), comes from a root word in Latin that means to listen. Obedience implies conversation. Obedience sometimes means saying no. And my promise of obedience is not made to an archbishop. It is made to a prioress. Who, for some crazy reason, doesn't think that dissent and argument within the Church is a bad thing.
Not only am I a Benedictine, but I've got a little Jesuit training under my belt. Not a lot--it's just a minor in theology under the education degree. But I did get a little exposure to the idea that God gave us intellect. Intuition. A sense of justice. I try to use mine.
Lastly, I'm pretty sure that nowhere in the Bible is it mentioned that I must believe in Pharaoh. The pope is not God. The pope is not the only person the Holy Spirit moves through. The pope is a man, a fallible man in bright red shoes, whose decisions, whether prayerful or arbitrary, are no more or less important than the prayerful or arbitrary decisions made 500 or 1000 years ago by former popes.
I believe that we are all, if we search at all, looking for our way to God. I think it's a Buddhist saying that goes, we're all on paths up the mountain to God, and we will all reach God, except for those who beat the bushes at the bottom of the mountain warning others that they're on the wrong path. Talk of the One Holy True Church is going to get us nowhere. Maybe talk of the Beatitudes will. Goodness gracious.
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You go, girl... And then fill me in later... Since of course you had to absorb a (as it turns out totally mistaken) rant on my part the other day. You'll see I'm wearing the asshat on Rav. I should have one in real life too...
Oh, and coffee? I have muffins.
I guess I missed the conflagration since I've been reading through RSS ...
I've written and deleted 2 different posts about our esteemed ex-Archbishop and one of his last acts. Written because the whole thing fascinated me. Deleted because it's family business and I'm not Catholic. We Episcopalians have enough problems of our own to solve ...
Sorry I missed coffee this morning! sounds like it would have been interresting conversation!
I'm sorry. I was specifically trying not to flame you or to do something that felt like it. Clearly I failed.
I'm sorry.
Jen, for the most part it wasn't you, although the fact that this was the first time you'd commented was striking to me. It was the 9 people who sent me comments that showed up in my gmail account for approval yesterday. Things that I refer to in this entry. If I'd felt that way about our conversation, I wouldn't have kept publishing and responding. But I needed to take the entry down because it was serving as a lightning rod for other conservative Catholics who did not approach me as you did. If I count those nine with the dozen or so young conservative Catholics I've had religious conversations with, I now have 21 bad interactions to 1 neutral. Not good odds from where I stand.
It's the first time I posted because I have your blog bookmarked with my baseball bookmarks (can't believe Mulder lasted 16 pitches...or rather, I can!), so usually I'm in a baseball mood while reading it and there hasn't been much of that to comment on.
As for the other comments, that's very disheartening, too, darn it.
I still don't understand how you found me via the cardinals...I write about them, oh, maybe once a year? Strange. Did you get here via ~Easy? Ah well.
I don't know what ~Easy is, so no.
Looking back from on your blogposts in 2006, the best that I can reconstruct is that you were linked on the sidebar of someone (friend or acquaintance) who was commenting on the Cardinals and I saw "South City Musings" and thought, "Hey, I live in South City!" Then I started reading and was interested: knitting (I don't knit, but crafts of all sorts interest me and you may have made some feminist link that interested me more, or so it seems in my dim memory), family life, spirituality, and St. Louis City living (including some really spectacular reflections on weather and community (not together, necessarily)). So I linked your blog to read again later. Of course, I was bookmarking everything right then in "Cardinals Blogs," so I am reminded of it when I am catching up on the Cardinals.
Sounds very weird, now that I type it out.
Let's just consider it the Holy Spirit speaking to me through the non-hierarchical Cardinals ;)
Hey Found this blog from the AlphaBlog. Anyway, I like what you're saying. I was a Catholic for 26 years, then met my husband who was in Seminary to become a Lutheran Pastor. He's has awoken my faith life. Catholicism didn't work for me, but it is great to hear a person who is comfortable in their own faith's "skin". :-)
Texan: You have to find your own faith home, wherever and whatever it may be. It took me a long time to come right around to where I started from!
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